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On the nature of Sithis by ~SaintGlory:iconSaintGlory:



On the nature of Sithis
By Lily Surilie, a humble servant and a faithful daughter to our Dread Father and Unholy Matron

Everybody who has ever bothered to visit a library has surely noticed an outstanding number of researches dedicated to the Nine as well as to the Daedra, but hardly anyone has ever found a work uncovering the mystery of Sithis’s nature. This humble research was done to fill the regrettable gap in our theological knowledge. Some of my acquaintances were eager to prevent me from doing this research – part of them being convinced that the topic is of no interest, others believing the very idea would most surely rouse ire of our Dread Father. The former are very wrong for there is no such topic which is of no interest to a devout scholar, as for the latter… well, I shall be the first to know if Sithis is displeased with my work.

One of the first questions one faces when entering the Dark Brotherhood is: What is Sithis? The answers are numerous varying from “the cold dreadful Void, resembling of a starless night deep in Jerall mountains” to “a voice whispering in one’s ears when he (or she) fulfills the will of the Night Mother”. Both are true – in a way – and still are most probably not the whole truth. According to the scarce bits of information available, we may assert that Sithis is strongly associated with darkness, void and chaos; that he gets the souls of those killed in his name; that he is powerful enough to cast his Wrath upon infidels and traitors, but still needs a go-between to interact with the material plan of the Mundus, this intermediary being the Night Mother herself; that he belongs neither to the Aedra nor to the Daedra. The last statement seems to be of the particular interest, for it arouses another important questions: What are the origins of Sithis and How does he fit in the harmonious imperial theological system?

The history of Sithis’s worship is closely connected with the history of the Dark Brotherhood. Most scholars agree that originally the Dark Brotherhood was a small group that broke away from Morag Tong in the beginning of the Second Era. The following development of the Brotherhood is not to be discussed here, for it mainly concerns political strife throughout the history of Tamriel, but not the sources of Sithis’s cult. The most popular theory of the origin of Sithis is that He is an incarnation of one of the Daedric princes, presumably Methala. Indeed, this hypothesis has some convincing argument. First, Methala is a patron of secrets, sex, assassination and of art (apparently of sex and assassination). Her (though Methala is believed to be bisexual, this Daedrot is generally referred to as a she) sphere perfectly coincides with that of Sithis, except for sex. So it is quite intelligible why Sithis is sometimes supposed to be a personification of the masculine nature of Methala. Second, it is Methala who is also believed to be the Morag Tong’s patron. As the Dark Brotherhood has once been a sect within Morag Tong, it’s natural to presume that, again, Sithis is only some kind of Methala’s misinterpretation.

However, due to the evidence I managed to find in some rare sources, I am convinced that the “Methala avatar” version is not true. According to Tarnatos Manuscripts, recently discovered by Nohept dir’Camal, Sithis came to existence when a nihilist Kimer sect of Psjjjjic order united Daedric elements with Ineffable Action under the Methala’s supervision. Thus Sithis is somehow connected with Psjjjj, which is a special notation of unknowable and inexpressible notion of Primeval Chaos – or Padomai (generally it is said that Psjjjj is not Padomai, but some unintelligible action by Anu – still I am not going to discuss this most complicated topic here). This seems quite a convincing hypothesis, especially if you keep in mind that the most probable etymology of our Dread Father’s name, “Sithis”, also lies in originating from “psjjjj”.

Here comes the time for my guess-works. Common theory is that there are two initial essences, Anu, the Light and Order, and Padomai, the Darkness and Chaos. My idea is that Anu is the Light and Padomai is the Darkness all right, nevertheless, the chaos-order opposition is, so to say, square with light-darkness couple. Hence there is a “lawful darkness” as well as a “chaotic light”. To my mind, Sithis is a substance of chaotic darkness – or cold void, “willing to kill the Mundus” (Tarnatos Manuscript, 27:14), while Daedra are creatures of lawful darkness.
So, finally I have said it. I am quite prepared for the flow of criticism, which is likely to pour down on my head, but I am not going to change my mind in favor of more popular and widespread theories. Dixi.
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Here it is, an article about Sithis by Lily Surilie, my Oblivion charachter. I've tried hard to copy an awful style, in wich most of the research papers are written. Hope I've succeeded. =D

Of course, Oblivion, Sithis etc. are all Bethesda's inventions, blah-blah-blah.

As for the information given in this article, it is quite truthworthy, because I DID a research. I've read something on Psjjjjic order and all the stuff, and the "Tarnatos Manuscript" mentioned above is among the supplementory information provided by the TES IV creators.

Enjoy!
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An extremely interesting work ! :clap:

I have myself always wondered what Sithis was. Given he seems not to belong to the Aedra/Daedra (as Vicente Valtieri mentionned it), he must be something else.

So, if I understand you well, you see Sithis as a "chaotic darkness".

Craaaap... I was him as some kind of "lawful darkness", but "lawful" in his very own way... :XD:

Remember that quest with that guy called Umbacano, who wants to complete a set of Ayleid statues ?
He believes these 10 statues to be the (ugly... :giggle: ) representation of some kind of Gods. And I wondered : who those Gods might be...? And what if they were some kinds of super Gods, whoo, instead of caring about one universe only, would take care about the whole universes exiting (including ours)...? :plotting:

And this is how I came up with the idea of a multiverse governed by some kind of "Great Elders" which would be nothing else than "super Universal Laws" like Death/Void (Sithis, Azrael, Hades... :XD:), Matter (aka "Life", "Existence" - whatever ! :XD: ), Fortune (aka "Luck"...), Destiny and a few others (I actually made a list :XD:).

I know it is not exactly lorewise, buuuut it is fun... :XD:

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Thank you! :blushes:

The idea of Multiverse is great. And actually, I agree that there should be some "Great Elders". The point is, Lily doesn't know that there are some other dimensions/variations/Universes/whatever you call them, so she is bound to the terms of TES lore.

Most of all I like the chats of Night Mother and Sithis - they do sound like a husband and a wife. =D

Oh, BTW, I've made some mistakes in spelling. Lore freaks may kill me, if they'd like to...
:ohmygod: Doh! I forgot you were writing from Lily's point of view... :XD:

The Multiverse is a very popular idea I got from Fantasy authors like Moorcock, Eddings and Pratchett. I love the possibility the Multiverse offers... And it is so fun to imagine Sithis and co managing the Multiverse. "Mulrtiverse Corporation" ! :XD:

I have always been intrigued with the relations between Sithis and the Night Mother. Wonder if things happened a bit like in the movie "Meeting with Jo Black"... :giggle:

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Sacrebleu !

"Valjean! You're a faaaag!" - Javert, "The Miseroïds" (by the producer of "The Fucking Dangerous Liaisons").

"Because I. Am. EVIL!" - Mister Evil [link]
The best possibility the Multiverse offers is not to do the Purification and not to get Lucien killed. I felt really down when played the DB questline for the first time. :cry:
Yeah... :( The programers chose the worst of the infinite possibilities offered by the Multiverse... *sigh*

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Sacrebleu !

"Valjean! You're a faaaag!" - Javert, "The Miseroïds" (by the producer of "The Fucking Dangerous Liaisons").

"Because I. Am. EVIL!" - Mister Evil [link]
That's the way it is. Most of the authors are sure that killing the most attractive character is just the right thing to do. =( I think, they are jealous and don't want to share their babies with the mobs of fan-girls...
Yeah ! :( It must be that, because I doubt they are cool and haaaawt as their creations... :giggle:

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Sacrebleu !

"Valjean! You're a faaaag!" - Javert, "The Miseroïds" (by the producer of "The Fucking Dangerous Liaisons").

"Because I. Am. EVIL!" - Mister Evil [link]
Hmmm very interesting perspective on the Dread Father (at least from your character's point of view) I have always thought of Sithis as being somewhat like the Egyptian Set or the Greek Nyx; perhaps a combination of the two.

I have always thought, well at least since I began playing Oblivion, that Sithis emerged from primordial chaos much like the Greek and Babylonian deities (Tiamat comes to mind)

Perhaps he is the void in which everything and nothing exists. A sort of ineffable god, incapable of being comprehended. A sort of dark version of the Hindu Bramhan.

Anyway, I'm rambling here; good work. Faved :D

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I wish everyone rambled as intellectually as you do. =)

Thanks for faving this crappy essay, whe I wrote it I didn't expect that anyone's gonna read it, let alone like it. :XD:

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